Russian Hackers or Lame Excuses?

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Russian Hackers or Lame Excuses?

Postby a2z » Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:36 pm

‘So many p*ssies on both sides’: Russian FM trolls US elections
Although this clip doesn't address the hacking question. It does get at the underlying issue. Basically, rather than own up to the emails, Hillary would rather blame it on the Russians. The Obama administration is so insistent on getting her elected that Obama is forcing governmental agencies to spread misinformation to provide cover for Hillary. This constitutes abuse of power and should be enough to impeach him. At this point it's too late to get through the impeachment proceedings, but should Trump wind up winning, I could see Obama doing jail time over this.
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Re: Russian Hackers or Lame Excuses?

Postby a2z » Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:38 pm

Putin: We know who hit aid convoy in Aleppo, so do the Americans
Again the Obama administration has resorted to all sorts of misinformation over the past several years to make Russia look bad. Putin has shown integrity, while Obama just keeps on lying. Here Putin deals with lies about Aleppo.
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Re: Russian Hackers or Lame Excuses?

Postby a2z » Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:44 pm

Putin says U.S. hacking scandal not in Russia's interests
There is no way to know who hacked the DNC email server and at this point it doesn't really matter. The only people who care are the people with something to hide and they are using all their resources to create a distraction to take the heat of Hillary. The FBI should have recommended an indictment against Hillary. Instead the FBI makes false claims against Russia. This is serious misuse of public resources in order to sway an election. It's not Russia that is attempting to sway the election. It's the Obama administration and at this point the president has betrayed the trust of the American people and has compromised the integrity of the FBI.
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Re: Russian Hackers or Lame Excuses?

Postby mrgreen » Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:24 pm

Russia: Hacking claims 'flattering' but false
All this media hysteria about Russia being behind the email hacks is nothing but a GIANT DIVERSION. It's an act of desperation. There are so many possible instigators of the hacks that it's not even funny and all of them are so good that there's no way to trace their identity. The American people are being duped into believing that Russia is behind the hacks and Obama is using his power and influence to see to it that federal organizations such as the FBI support claims made by the Clinton campaign. It's the old story of if you tell a lie often enough the people will believe it.
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Re: Russian Hackers or Lame Excuses?

Postby ergot » Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:07 pm

US, Russia spar over latest computer hacks
There's no proof. Only rhetoric. This is just a smokescreen and a bunch of drama to distract the American people from what's in the emails. This is a propaganda campaign being waged against the American people by our government and nothing more. I agree with the statement made above the Obama should be impeached over this misuse of power. He and Hillary should rot in prison for the rest of their lives.
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Re: Russian Hackers or Lame Excuses?

Postby ergot » Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:22 pm

WIKILEAKS BOMBSHELL: Google Emails / Hillary Clinton
There may be connections between the Clinton campaign and Google. The YouTube monetization scandal may have also been an attempt to silence anti-Clinton commentators. This rabbit hole is getting pretty deep.
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Re: Russian Hackers or Lame Excuses?

Postby ruskyed » Thu Oct 13, 2016 11:29 am

Taking all this and more into consideration, I've reached the following conclusion:

Russian Hackers? I'm not buying that story at all. At any time there are dozens of hacking groups attempting to compromise servers belonging to major corporations and governmental agencies. Russia, China, India, and just about every other country on the planet along with even more groups of independent hackers are constantly working to break into systems all around the world. Our intelligence agencies do exactly the same thing and our tendency to meddle in the affairs of foreign governments has been fully documented by Chomsky and dozens of other reputable journalists. At best it would be hypocritical of us to accuse Russia of interfering in our election process, but it's much worse than that. First of all, I seriously doubt that there is any evidence to suggest that Russia (and in particular government officials in Russia) are involved in the hacking since it could just as well be any of dozens of other groups based on any evidence that may or may not exist. Just as was the case before the attack on Iraq, government officials are attempting to trick the people of the USA into believing something which just simply is not true. Whether this is simply a diversionary tactic to keep the focus off the emails or this is part of a larger strategy to demonize Russia is difficult to determine. However, it does appear that Obama has abused his power and influence to get the FBI to support a false narrative. This could be interpreted as a form of treason since misuse of power in this manner could be seen as compromising national security.

Putin seems to be aware of this as he has called countrymen to return home. Probably not a good sign, but something the USA has been pushing towards for the last few years.
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Re: Russian Hackers or Lame Excuses?

Postby recluse » Thu Oct 13, 2016 8:46 pm

Blame Canada :dizzy:
It's nice to have someone to blame!
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Re: Russian Hackers

Postby mrfish » Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:16 am

Russian Hackers? We have hacked just about every government in the the world. There was a big stink about us hacking into governmental computers in Germany just a few months ago. Even if we could prove that Russia did it, we don't have any right to complain.
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Re: Russian Hackers

Postby sandman » Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:32 am

I care more about the contents of the emails than who we should thank for bringing them to our attention. The American people are far too complacent about allowing Hillary and her media friends to dodge the real issue here.
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