Pine Cones

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Re: Pine Cones

Postby cactuspete » Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:21 am

KissMyTail wrote:
sandman wrote:I think part of the problem is that sometimes people assume that Native Americans just know a lot about nature. The truth is that most don't. But some like to act like they do and they get a little smug in the process.

The word that should be used here is arrogant. They're not just smug, they're arrogant. A lot of people believe in the myth of the noble savage and although Indians (or Native Americans or North American aborigines or whatever you want to call them) had survival skills, their standard of living and their level of knowledge was primitive at best. Most were dead by the age of forty and many tribes were nothing more than groups of brutal savages leading an extremely self-centered existence. I could go on, but I think you get the idea.

There's no doubt that there are Native Americans with the attitude you describe and there's no doubt that many people have an overly romanticized view of Native American traditional cultures. However, this thread is supposed to be about pine cones and I'd appreciate it if we could stick to the topic a little more closely!
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Re: Pine Cones

Postby twister » Tue Oct 20, 2020 7:32 am

How to grow Pine Tree seedlings from pine cones the Lazy and Easy way
This might work some of the time, but it's still going to take a long time for the saplings to become trees.
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Re: Pine Cones

Postby cloud » Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:33 pm

Longleaf Pines of Southeast Texas
Beautiful trees in Texas and a bunch of other interesting plants too.
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Re: Pine Cones

Postby panamint_patty » Sat Dec 05, 2020 8:11 am

Wild Food Foraging- Pine / Spruce / Cedar / Fir- Evergreen Teas
Making tea from evergreen tree leaves is probably something I'm not going to do, but this video does a good job of explaining the differences between the four trees listed in the title. However, telling the difference between cedars and juniper trees is not so easy and both grow in California.
https://www.thoughtco.com/difference-between-cedars-and-junipers-4165305
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Re: Pine Cones

Postby tronagirl » Thu Dec 24, 2020 6:29 am

The Worst Christmas Tree
There are a couple conifers which lose their leaves during the winter. Not a good choice for a Christmas tree.
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Re: Pine Cones

Postby BoraxBill » Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:56 am

The Distribution of Forest Trees In California
This 124 page PDF file catalogs all the trees native to California and comes complete with distribution maps. Here's part of the entry for the Digger Pine:
Pinus sabiniana Dougl.
Digger pine
Map 56

David Douglas collected this California endemic in 1831 while visiting Mission San Juan Bautista (Griffin 1964a). Digger pine is common throughout most of the Foothill Woodland at elevations of 1,000 to 3,000 feet from Shasta County to Los Angeles County (Griffin 1962). Low-elevation stands of Digger pine on the floor of the Sacramento Valley approach 100 feet elevation near Dunnigan, Natoma, and Oroville. Scattered groves occur in dry, rocky slopes within the Mixed Conifer Forest up to the 6,000-foot level. Such groves, particularly in the north, tend to be on sterile soils from serpentine rock (Griffin 1965). A few trees approach the 7,000-foot level near Sawtooth Peak in southwestern Inyo County.

https://www.fs.fed.us/psw/publications/documents/psw_rp082/psw_rp082.pdf
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Re: Pine Cones

Postby panamint_patty » Thu Dec 16, 2021 6:43 am

Cal Fire Helping Restore Forests At Its Davis Seed Bank
This video shows part of the process of getting the seeds out of pine cones as part of reforestation efforts.
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Re: Pine Cones

Postby deathvalleyjake » Sat May 14, 2022 6:29 am

Pinus sabiniana, Pinaceae
The advice given in this video: Don't take a nap under this pine. The cones are so big that they could kill you and on top of that the cones are spiky too!
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Re: Pine Cones

Postby sierra_jim » Tue Oct 18, 2022 6:33 am

Ponderosa Pines and Jeffrey Pines of the Sierra
Gentle Jeffreys, prickly ponderosa. That's how you remember the difference. Also Jeffreys give off a vanilla smell in the bark.
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Re: Pine Cones

Postby deathvalleyjake » Thu Aug 31, 2023 6:33 am

A couple pines that are sometimes difficult to tell apart are foxtail and bristlecone. They are similar enough that many people confuse them. Also they grow in the same areas and so many people think they've seen foxtail when they've actually seen a bristlecone and vice versa.
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