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Re: Is Julian Assane Alive?

Postby surfsteve » Fri Dec 02, 2016 12:09 pm

Bombshell: UN Orders Immediate Release Of Julian Assange
Posted on December 1, 2016 by Sean Adl-Tabatabai in News, UK
http://yournewswire.com/un-orders-relea ... n-assange/

Assuming he is produced and released This should put to rest any rumors that he is dead; or compromised, and no longer being held at the embassy.
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Re: Cypherpunks

Postby CrustyOldFart » Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:54 am

Obama commutes the sentence of Chelsea Elizabeth Manning, formerly. known to the world as Bradley Edward Manning. She/he was convicted of a number of crimes in connection to leaking official documents to WikiLeaks and was sentenced to 35 years in prison. I think the leaks were a good thing. I think the sex change was just idiotic, although if it messed with people's minds, then it may not have been all bad, just weird.
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Re: Cypherpunks

Postby Sparky of SoCal » Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:24 pm

CrustyOldFart wrote:Obama commutes the sentence of Chelsea Elizabeth Manning, formerly. known to the world as Bradley Edward Manning. She/he was convicted of a number of crimes in connection to leaking official documents to WikiLeaks and was sentenced to 35 years in prison. I think the leaks were a good thing. I think the sex change was just idiotic, although if it messed with people's minds, then it may not have been all bad, just weird.

What are your thoughts on the commute of the prison time? It does not seem to be much of a deterrent for future espionage? Not all espionage can all be good if any.
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Re: Cypherpunks

Postby cactuspete » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:27 pm

Almost Every Word Of John McCain's Response To Chelsea Manning's Sentence Commutation Is Flat Out Wrong
Manning revealed a lot of corruption in the military. Deciding to not take part in the cover up was a courageous thing to do.
Manning leaked diplomatic cables and related information exposing vast wrongdoing by the US, to Wikileaks, who partnered with a number of respected press outlets to reveal the wrongdoing. That's not espionage. That's classic whistleblowing. And, yes, in case you've forgotten, Manning's leaks revealed a hell of a lot of wrongdoing by the US government.

I think the question to ask is why didn't more people responsible for covering up corruption in the military wind up being prosecuted? Why did the whistleblower wind up in prison? I've never been able to figure out why Obama received a Nobel Peace Prize, but if Manning were to receive the prize, then that would make a lot of sense!
This has been pointed out over and over again: the oath that people take is to defend the Constitution. And a big part of that is calling out unconstitutional behavior by "this nation." Which is exactly what Manning did.

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https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20170117/23335836506/almost-every-word-john-mccains-response-to-chelsea-mannings-sentence-commutation-is-flat-out-wrong.shtml
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Re: Cypherpunks

Postby CrustyOldFart » Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:37 am

Sparky of SoCal: According to the article that CactusPete posted espionage ain't got nothing to do with it. Of course that's just the opinion of the author of the article, but I tend to agree with it. We don't want people just willy-nilly sharing military secrets with the world, but when someone sees a wrong being done, they darn well ought to speak up. That's all Manning did and that's what any American that cares about truth and justice should of done!
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Re: Cypherpunks

Postby MojaveMike » Mon Jan 23, 2017 8:32 pm

CrustyOldFart wrote:Sparky of SoCal: According to the article that CactusPete posted espionage ain't got nothing to do with it. Of course that's just the opinion of the author of the article, but I tend to agree with it. We don't want people just willy-nilly sharing military secrets with the world, but when someone sees a wrong being done, they darn well ought to speak up. That's all Manning did and that's what any American that cares about truth and justice should of done!

Absolutely. When we see corruption or injustice we have an obligation to speak up and do something about it. It takes true courage to do what Manning did and he deserves praise for doing the right thing. Instead our corrupt government wishes to punish him, thus ensuring their power to continue to be corrupt as they want to be.
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As for the sex reassignment stuff. That's weird and disturbing as far as I'm concerned. HOWEVER, that's a separate issue.
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Re: Cypherpunks

Postby mrgreen » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:38 pm

FBI launches criminal probe into WikiLeaks over CIA dump
More leaks!!! :talk:
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